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Old 06-05-2007, 21:30   #16
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ja imam na kepleru i solar fire

imaju vjerojatno svi astro-softveri
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Old 06-05-2007, 22:03   #17
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Ja u kepleru ne mogu da ih pronađem
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Old 06-05-2007, 22:49   #18
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da zato jer nisu pod nazivom tercijarne progresije vec Day-for-a-Month Progressions - to je predzadnja tocka s lijeve strane na progresijama..

i navodno je orbis djelovanja +- 1*, a kepler uzima više, pa bude pregršt aspekata a dijeluju samo oni u tom orbisu..
solar fire prikazuje aspekte samo na +-1, pa je preglednije..
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sekundarne se racunaju jedan dan jedna godina
a tercijalne jedan mesec jedan dan

Moze ako imas 20 godina to je 240 meseci, od dana rodjenja izracunas 240 dana i pogledas kartu toga dana i onda ti je to kao ya tvoju dvadeset prvu godinu jasno?

da ali ???bas tako se ne moze precizirati medjutim u kombinaciji sa tranzitima i solarom moze

Gledas aspekte koje imas u solaru natalu tercijalnim i onda one koji se ponavljaju uzmes u ozbiljnije razmatranje a ako ih imas i u natalu smatraj da ce sigurno doci do dogadjaja

mesec donosi bebe tj.on je roda
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What Primary Progression is:
The original concept of Primary Progression has never been changed for centuries. Progressing the position of a natal planet means moving it (symbolically) about one degree forward or backward (i.e. direct or converse progression) for each year of native’s life or about that according to the Time Measure used. It is assumed that most life events occur when a progressing body (planet) progresses (moves) to make major aspect with a standing natal body (planet or angle). It is called symbolic because the planets progress (move) in a rate has nothing to do with the actual daily motion of the planet at any timeand all natal planets are progressed according to that symbolic rate.
The distance of the imaginary journey of the progressing planet toward the point from which it throws its direction (aspect) on the other point is called the arc of direction. It is measured in degrees (called Right Ascensions or RA) and seconds. The method of one degree of arc is the equivalent of one year in human life is only one of many other measures to figure out the equivalent of time to the calculated arc of direction. There are several theories; Astral astrology software gives you the opportunity to test some the major options of Primary Progression Time Measures, here are some of these measures:-
1) Exact 1 degree per one year.
2) One year of human life equals the Average Daily Motion of the Sun (0°:59’:01”).
3) The Actual Daily Motion of the Sun after birth.
4) Sidereal Actual Daily Motion of the Sun in right ascension.
5) Custom rate defined by the user between 00:30’ and 1°:30’.
Though, the difference among these methods is very slight, but sometimes it is sufficient enough to move the date of the anticipated event many weeks forward or backward, even if the time of birth was carefully recorded. All primary directions are taken on the ecliptic in Right Ascensions (R.A.), which is a degree on the ecliptic.
You can select the planet(s) you would like to progress (move) toward the others. You can also, invoke an option, which finds for you only directions to the natal angles (Asc. & Mc.). This kind of directions is considered to be very important. With correctly recorded or well-rectified birth time Primary Directions seldom pass without leaving remarkable events in our life. You still have more choices. Primary direction could be calculated either on the latitude of the planets (or without). Directions to angles could be zodiacal or mundane. You may have the same direction from the same planet but each time in different type. It diversifies the date of the direction, as if the nature keeps for itself a reserve date to manifest the consequences of the direction.


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What Secondary Progression is:
It is based on the assumption that "Each day after birth represents one year of life later on". In other words, it is assumed that natal planets progress (move) from their radical positions and make new aspects among each other and also throw new ones on the natal positions. These aspects are called Secondary Directions. Therefore, each direction includes at least one advancing planet, which is called the (Progressing Point). The second one could be either an advancing or standing one. In both cases is called the (Standing Point). However, the second point could be radical planet (point) or progressing one as well. The term “point” refers to various degrees on the zodiac considered to be important to astrologers such as the radical angles of the nativity so as those of the progressed chart or the astrological parts and midpoints.
For your astrological research you may need to know how all or one or even few planets were behaving during the period of progression and what secondary directions they receive and throw. To avoid the bulk of unnecessary information, the software filters out the final results so you can select only those directions thrown or received by particular planets.
In secondary progression the progressing planet throws aspects (secondary directions) from various angles. Not always all these angles are important, you can also filter out which of them you would like to see. If only the conjunction direction option (0 degree aspects) were put on and all others were off, you find only available conjunctions during the defined period under investigation, all other angles will be ignored and will not appear in the final results table.

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Old 07-05-2007, 03:05   #21
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naravno da donosi dosta toga ali ja bas te sekundarne direkcije ne cenim previse i vise verujem tercijalnim a najvise primarnim direkcijama one se ostvaruju cesce......a mesec ti moye doneti i popularnost yaljubljenost ako je afliktovan onda i neke negativne stvari u zavisnosti od koje planete.....

to su tercijalne direkcije ako se ne varam? mesec nad uranom donosi yaljubljenost i yaljubljivanje u 5 poljuHM moze i iynendna trudnoca a venera u 12 neka tajna je tu prisutna?

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e ovo jesu sekundarne al 1/godina tvog zivota tada si jos ti bila

SAD cu ti pozeleti lep san a sutra divan dan za analizicu tvojih progresija

na blic--ve u 8 kuci u trigonu sa pl i sa vrhom 12.definitivno uleces u neku fatalnu ljubavnu vezu to kad kayem fatalnu ne mislim na losu nego jako strastvenu i opet mi polja nisu bas naklonjena cistoj javnoj vezi ima tu neke tajne??
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Old 07-05-2007, 20:58   #22
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Koliki orbis uzimate za sekundarne progresije egzaktan ili....
Npr.Sekundarne za maj 2007
Prog Su na 28 Jarca-Nat Ve na 00 Vodolije
Prog Mo na 21 Vodolije - Nat Mo na 21 Vodolije.....itd
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do jedan stepen
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naravno da donosi dosta toga ali ja bas te sekundarne direkcije ne cenim previse i vise verujem tercijalnim a najvise primarnim direkcijama one se ostvaruju cesce......
Kako se izracunavaju primarne progresije???
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tercijarne progresije su za 10
brže su od primarnih i sekundarnih i mogu se pratiti ko tranziti
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Kako se izracunavaju primarne progresije???
Kod njih se uzima jedan stepen za jednu godinu. Ako ti je npr. Sunce na 2* Strelca u primarnim direkcijama (ili progresijama) za osamnaestu godinu bice na 20*. I sve planete se pomeraju na isti nacin, stepen za godinu
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Da li tercije gledate kao zaseban chart(kao solar npr.) ili u odnosu na natal,ili oba?

U oba slucaja Ve tercijalna mi uskoro izlazi na Asc.
Tercijalni Asc mi je trenutno na Natalnom.A samim tim dolazi mi i na natalnog Me vladara 7.

Znaci li to da mi dolazi love?

A u samom tercijalnom Mars mi je 180 Mesec tercijalni.Mo u 8-Ma u 2?
Povrede ili sli.
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Wow, ako dobro izracunah..Venera iz tercijalne progresije mi na natalnom Suncu, progresivno Sunce i progresivni Merkur na natalnom Mesecu, a u dogledno vreme mogu se nadati i progresivnom Marsu na natalnom Saturnu...zurka!
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najbitnija su kretanja Mo jer je tercijar zapravo emotivne prirode (uzimaju se progresije dan-za-mjesec) tako da će Mo najviše reći
u aspektu s Ne i Ve donosi jako lijepe osjećaje, zaljubljenost, opčinjenost - tad se obično nešto dešava u ljubavnom životu natusa..
- Mo90Sa donosi razočarenja, itd.
tercijar se gleda normalno kao i svaki drugi čart, a može se kombinirati i sa natalom..
bitno je kad planeti izađu na ASC!

probajte napraviti tercijarne progresije dejvisona
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Huh...tericijalna progresija za dejvison...
Moram da proverim, prvo uradih za sebe,onda za njega i na kraju uradih dejvison,tako treba?
U slucaju da uradih kako treba, u konjukciji sa Asc novog dejvisona, njegova natalna Venera, a u konjukciji sa Dsc moj Mars..
Polako pocinjem da se ozbiljno gubim u svemu ovome...
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